Artificial intelligence, or AI, has finally penetrated the evangelical cultural bubble. And some of them are very upset and worried about what this technology might mean for humanity’s future. Others see AI as a money train. At a time when they ought to be more concerned about fixing their most serious problems, evangelicals are off chasing their latest distraction.
Evangelicals have figured out that AI is a thing that exists
Recently, I caught an opinion post on Baptist News Global that deals with AI. It’s titled “Artificial intelligence spells the end of church as we know it” (archive). In it, writer Cynthia Astle wrings her hands over AI’s growing popularity and incredible flexibility. As you might tell from the title alone, she’s not enthused with AI’s potential effect on evangelicalism as a whole. She writes:
The advent of artificial intelligence marks the end of human endeavor in church and society. Maybe not now, and maybe not in 10 years (if humanity lives that long), but sooner than we’re prepared to cope with it.
“Artificial intelligence spells the end of church as we know it,” Baptist News Global. (archive)
Well! That is quite an alarming assessment. She bases it on a few different sources. First, she cites an April 2023 post in the Economist (archive) by Yuval Noah Harari. In it, Harari asserts that AI can and will annihilate humanity if allowed to proceed further. Harari also points out that AI has already “hacked the operating system of our civilization” by learning to tell stories and communicate its own ideas to people.
Second, she mentions a fake AI-generated robocall (archive) that recently threatened election integrity in New Hampshire.
Third, she briefly mentions “a recent 90-minute webinar produced by a church agency.” I couldn’t find it, and she doesn’t say what it was or who specifically made it. This webinar taught attendees a little about AI: its history, the philosophical ramifications of using it, etc. Alas, Astle tells us, “the webinar centered on how to use AI without delving into a substantive why to use it.” [All emphases come from the original source, unless stated otherwise.]
Very briefly, Astle later mentions an Austin, Texas congregation that didn’t like their experiment with AI. As she puts it, they “found that an AI-generated worship service lacked sufficient heart and soul to inspire church members.”
She didn’t cite the source there, either, but I found it. This experiment occurred in September 2023 (archive). The pastor involved, Jay Cooper, used ChatGPT to write his service one Sunday. He thought this AI sermon lacked “the human touch” of a pastor/preacher performing live for a congregation. (A Turkish church ran a similar experiment in June 2023.)
As we’ll see in a moment, that’s not exactly the own Astle thinks it is. But forget it. She’s on a roll.
The allure of AI, according to evangelicals
Many evangelical ministers perceive AI as a useful tool.
Eric Rountree of the YouTube channel “Beyond The Pulpit” offers some mundane ideas for AI to help pastors: composing emails, making research faster and more efficient, organizing emails as they arrive, and the like.
Another YouTuber, Michael Moyer, suggests that pastors can make cool, attention-grabbing thumbnails for their sermons using AI art:
Other ministers are thinking far more grandly.
Bigger. Bolder. Creepier.
A recent on-demand webinar (archive) offers tips for evangelical pastors who might be interested in using AI. Its main backers include Barna Group, a for-profit evangelical survey house, and Gloo, a weird, behind-the-scenes data gatherer, engagement booster, and communications business.
Gloo’s presence tells us exactly what this webinar’s primary focus must be: recruitment. This company also turns up in the billion-dollar, years-running “He Gets Us” ad campaign. The creators of the campaign piously promise that they just want to mend Christianity’s tattered, tainted brand. However, it does nothing of the sort. In truth, the campaign gathers a great deal of personal information about potential recruits (archive).
(Related: Will evangelicals be fooled by the “He Gets Us” campaign?)
Really, the only possible way to make Gloo or “He Gets Us” sound creepier is to involve AI. And that’s the cue for me to bring up that the very evangelical CBN (Christian Broadcasting Network) did a puff piece on February 21, 2024 on Gloo’s part in this webinar.
In that puff piece, we learn that yes indeed, Gloo is “investing $25M in implementing AI in the church.”
Ten years ago, church revitalization was the trendy way for hucksters to capitalize on evangelicals’ decline. Now, apparently, they are all about the AI.
(Related: The problems and pitfalls of church revitalization.)
The danger of AI, according to evangelicals
Cynthia Astle isn’t the only evangelical expressing concern about AI these days. For a few years now, I’ve seen headline after headline on evangelical sites—all fretting about the ethical implications of AI.

Sometimes, the concerns sound silly. A presenter on an October 2023 webinar from the Kairos Network says, about 10 minutes in, that one potential problem with AI is “lazy pastors” using AI to do their work for them. It briefly mentions the Austin experiment as well.
Another YouTuber, Trey VanCamp, said in a 2022 video that he was “freaked out” over how quickly and suddenly ChatGPT showed up everywhere he looked.
VanCamp’s written a book about pastors who experience anxiety, so he asked ChatGPT to list five sources of anxiety for pastors. It immediately offered a list that sounds (to both of us) exactly correct. But he doesn’t seem to notice that ChatGPT just made his book irrelevant. He’s way more concerned with the human situation itself, you see.
See, VanCamp thinks AI “is diminishing” to people because of how quickly and effectively it satisfies our curiosity and how “delighting” it is to use. Citing another book, VanCamp declares that AI degrades humanity because it “doesn’t involve the whole person.”
Well, neither does reading—unless the reader walks a treadmill while doing it, I suppose. But I don’t hear VanCamp complaining about books degrading humanity.
Evangelicals fretting hard about AI
Early on, the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) began sounding the alarm klaxons about AI.
In 2019, their Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC) laid out exactly what problems they had with this new technology. They called their list of problems “An Evangelical Statement of Principles” (archive), but it’s more like a shopping list of their worst fears.
First and foremost, they’re worried that AI might “usurp or subvert” their perceived ownership of the universe. Yahweh gave everything to them, his very most favorite humans, not some computer programs! Along those same lines, they also oppose any suggestion that AI might gain human-like rights. (Given how hard evangelicals fight the idea that animals might merit rights of their own or have abilities previously thought to be solely human, that’s not surprising. They tend to dislike even the idea that all humans have human rights.)
Second, they are afraid that AI might supplant evangelicalism. Their statement tells us so:
Since the Lord Jesus alone can atone for sin and reconcile humanity to its Creator, technology such as AI cannot fulfill humanity’s ultimate needs.
“An Evangelical Statement of Principles,” ERLC, 2019 (archive)

They’re forgetting that neither can evangelicalism, which we know because people keep leaving evangelical churches and having problems that evangelicalism simply cannot fix.
Third, they have some very science-fiction notions about humans letting AI run our legal and judicial systems. After all, as their statement tells us, Yahweh won’t be judging AIs at the end of the world! Only humans risk having their ghosts tortured in Hell forever after they die!
Fourth, they have some very science-fiction notions about what AI can do to improve humanity in physical terms. Maybe they’ve been playing Cyberpunk games too much lately, you tell me:
Furthermore, we reject the materialist and consequentialist worldview that understands medical applications of AI as a means of improving, changing, or completing human beings.
“An Evangelical Statement of Principles,” ERLC, 2019 (archive)
The statement goes on and on like this. And the SBC ain’t letting things go at that, either. In 2021, they begged Joe Biden to let them participate in AI policy discussions (archive) so they can make sure their perceived divinely-granted superiority over everything isn’t threatened even a little.
These evangelicals are deeply concerned that AI might somehow “subjugate human autonomy under the power of the state,” as the 2019 statement puts it.
But it’s okay if Gloo gathers all kinds of deep intel about unwitting marks for later manipulation in all kinds of ways, right? Let’s ask Ed Stetzer, a Southern Baptist big name involved with Gloo. Maybe he can tell us.
Or maybe that $25M Gloo is spending on AI speaks louder than any statement of principles.
To be evangelical is to pick fights with everything new that popular culture likes
This entire tempest-in-yet-another-teapot sounds a lot like evangelicals’ one-time opposition to virtual reality (VR). I worked at an indoor all-ages amusement park for a while in the mid-90s. Though I was Pentecostal, I had no problem with the VR games they offered. But plenty of evangelicals did, and more than a few tried to save my immortal soul from all that demonic VR while I was at work. Oh, that was always such an awkward situation!
They’ve gotten over it as a group since then. Some of the D-list ministers even run virtual churches in VR hangouts. But I suppose they needed something new to fear lately.
For that matter, culture warriors once opposed Elvis Presley’s music. Some still do (see also this guy). They also ferociously opposed roleplaying games. And movies and television.
When I was Pentecostal, our “holiness standards” dictated that we opt out of a great number of popular pastimes: parades, concerts of any kind (though young adults in less-stringent churches might get away with very Christian bands’ concerts, Pentecostal pastors didn’t allow it), movies, TV watching of any kind, organized sports (from the bleachers or on radio/TV), ballet and opera, and much much more.
That left us with only a few ways to enjoy ourselves: Church services, prayer meetings, summer meetings, choir practice, and symphonies. Yes, symphonies. Nobody ever told them about the riots that sometimes broke out (archive) over now-classical composers’ work. Thank goodness for small favors. Against those few allowable secular diversions, church stuff looked a lot more appealing!
Perhaps that’s why every new thing that popular culture likes becomes culture-warriors’ newest enemy. It’s competition!
Almost a century ago, Bellamy Partridge fretted over all the new delights of the late 1940s—like urbanization itself—that were drawing Americans away from wholesome activities in general and church in particular. Similarly, right now ChatGPT looks a whole lot more interesting than anything evangelicals can offer.
A few decades ago, evangelicals lost the ability to effectively punish dissenters and apostates. Sure, some communities make life rough for heathens, but most can’t make it so incredibly rough that it frightens the flocks out of considering deconversion/deconstruction. So every distraction must be trampled down immediately.
AI: The distraction of the hour, and the newest money train
Surveying the evangelical Christ-o-sphere, one gets a certain sense of dread about AI. To be evangelical is to be afraid, but this is something more than their usual fearmongering. This time, the flocks seem far less worried than their leaders. But they also can’t dream nearly as big as their leaders about the potential involved here.
I’m not sure evangelicals have that much reason to be dreading or afraid of AI. As at least two congregations have already discovered, AI sermons just aren’t entertaining enough on their own (yet) without a real human to provide all those necessary flourishes and jazz hands. For as long as evangelicals exist as a cultural force, they’ll still need their entertainment managers—er, I mean pastors and preachers—to be human.
But for all the dread they express, evangelicals still can’t resist the allure of AI. It’s just so mysterious! So panicky pastors might just shell out big bucks for AI webinars and consulting to harness its power to turn their declining churches around at last. Where revitalization utterly failed as a trend, maybe AI will be the ticket to thriving, growing congregations.
Or maybe AI will turn out to be just another distracting squirrel for evangelicals to chase so they never have to confront the real problems they have as a group.
24 Comments
ericc · 02/26/2024 at 9:31 AM
𝑉𝑎𝑛𝐶𝑎𝑚𝑝 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑘𝑠 𝐴𝐼 “𝑖𝑠 𝑑𝑖𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑖𝑠ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔” 𝑡𝑜 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑏𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑜𝑓 ℎ𝑜𝑤 𝑞𝑢𝑖𝑐𝑘𝑙𝑦 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑒𝑓𝑓𝑒𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑣𝑒𝑙𝑦 𝑖𝑡 𝑠𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑠𝑓𝑖𝑒𝑠 𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑐𝑢𝑟𝑖𝑜𝑠𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑎𝑛𝑑 ℎ𝑜𝑤 “𝑑𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔” 𝑖𝑡 𝑖𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑢𝑠𝑒.
There’s a grain of truth here. Interesting books make convincing sources of lies. Then interesting radio and TV made more convincing sources of lies. Then internet sites, chats, etc. apps made even more convincing sources of lies. So I expect that if people find using AI is interesting and pleases their ego (look what I did!), the lies that come out of it will be even more convincing than it’s predecessors (I used this tool…and it confirmed my own beliefs! They must be right!). And no, I’m not some conspiracy nut, I’m talking about AI causing more people to *become* conspiracy nuts and political extremists.
So, I do worry about people using it for data collection an searching without skepticism. This is not qualitatively different from previous (modern, technological) ways of searching for information, but because of it’s speed, efficacy, and likely even greater ability to anticipate and mirror the user’s own beliefs, it may a quantitatively bigger problem in terms of getting naive users to believe lies, errors, or other incorrect claims.
OldManShadow · 02/26/2024 at 2:13 PM
Skynet has no need of destroying all humans. Human minds are easily fooled and many (most) are easily led. Controlling humanity as an AI with access to every computer, server, streaming service, and network would be relatively easy.
Chris Peterson · 02/26/2024 at 10:09 AM
AI is already producing higher quality output than most human writers, and it will only get better. I have no doubt it can produce better sermons than most preachers are capable of (I mean… have you listened to the theobabble that so many spout!)
Carstonio · 02/26/2024 at 12:19 PM
A local candidate for the school board election, a Moms Against Liberty type, already sounds like AI – their campaign platform is all buzz phrases apparently copied from a PowerPoint.
Carstonio · 02/26/2024 at 12:14 PM
I have speculated that realistic fembots might actually reduce sexism instead of perpetuating it. Guys with sexist attitudes might prefer the compliant machines to human women, who have an inconvenient tendency to want dignity and respect. So such men wouldn’t sire children and thus wouldn’t raise the kids with their attitudes. Natural selection at work.
So would an AI-generated reality lead to further declines in evangelicalism? Would its adherents end up spending all their waking hours in simulations where white men rule and everyone else obeys, not interacting with others in a way that leads to procreation?
Chris Peterson · 02/26/2024 at 12:29 PM
Even more effective if they’re the type with machine guns in their boobs.
Captain Cassidy · 02/26/2024 at 3:49 PM
Those sexist guys often fantasize that feminists will hate that development because bots will take “good men” like themselves out of dating/marriage circulation. I’m a feminist, and I assure men like that that I am not against the idea at all. They were never in the running for dating/marriage consideration for any women of value. It’d be like me getting a dog robot: I’m not in a position to get a real dog right now, so a dog robot for me isn’t hurting a real-life good boi’s chance of being adopted.
Carstonio · 02/26/2024 at 12:15 PM
Love the art. Any squirrel deities would be of the trickster variety.
BensNewLogIn · 02/26/2024 at 12:45 PM
I use AI occasionally in my Photoshop work, because I don’t have the right photo to incorporate into my work. I can ask AI to actually generate the work,, but I have enough integrity to know that it is not my work.
AI is easy enough to use, but it’s very difficult to get it to generate something that’s very good. Sometimes after trying 30 or so times to generate the portion of an image that I need, I simply give up and see if I can find something else to use.
A pastor using AI to generate a sermon sounds like a pastor who is simply phoning it in.
Houndentenor · 02/26/2024 at 5:28 PM
There have been books of sermons that one could buy and religious bookstores for at least 50 years now (probably a lot longer). Pastors plagiarize from sources like that far more than they let on. AI would generate something about like that.
Artor · 02/26/2024 at 2:07 PM
People act like AI will have some unique ability to make horrible decisions that will harm human beings, but historically, humans themselves have done just fine at being evil, murderous bastards to each other. Adding AI to the mix won’t really change anything on that front. It will just add a layer of deniability to sociopaths who are already adept at deflecting responsibility for their actions.
As for pastors using ChatGPT (cat, I farted) to write their sermons, I suspect that for those pastors who WOULD use AI to write sermons, it can probably write with more depth and empathy than they can themselves.
OldManShadow · 02/26/2024 at 2:11 PM
“These evangelicals are deeply concerned that AI might somehow “subjugate human autonomy under the power of the state,” as the 2019 statement puts it.”
“Why, that’s our job, dammit!” they added.
BensNewLogIn · 02/26/2024 at 8:47 PM
You were much more clever about it than I was on top,
Polytropos · 02/26/2024 at 5:20 PM
As a writer, Cynthia Astle may have good reason to be concerned about AI. The sharp decline in Evangelical cultural dominance means diminishing financial returns and fewer people willing to spend money on media products created by writers like Cynthia. A Christian publisher looking to extract as much profit as possible from a shrinking pool of customers might well start wondering why they need to hire humans when books and articles can now be written by AI.
Houndentenor · 02/26/2024 at 5:23 PM
I have been playing with AI image creation with Bing. Sometimes it’s a hit and often it’s a big old miss. Why are there two people but five arms? It’s not going to be replacing human artists any time soon. It is fun for people like me who can describe what we want to see but couldn’t execute it and would never pay anyone to draw it. It’s a fun toy at the moment and nothing to be scared of.
Chris Peterson · 02/26/2024 at 10:11 PM
Same here. It’s a nice way to create an image to put at the top of a blog post, things like that.
Traveller · 03/03/2024 at 4:00 PM
I have played with it too, for the kind of things that there’s no way to find on Internet despite having searched for it, and I think that they’re just something auxiliary at least for now. And something that has environmental concerns too given how much energy those art generating AIs require.
The hands are also something AIs fail at, especially that. Sometimes it’s also clear they used pictures gathered from the Net for training, given things as garbled watermarks and others that look suspiciously similar.
Carstonio · 02/27/2024 at 7:02 AM
I’ve experimented a couple of times with AI image generation, but it hasn’t produced a specific image that I want. That would be Confederate generals cowering in repentenance, while Harriet Tubman and Frederick Douglass stand over them, their eyes ablaze in righteous anger. Or the same theme, except with Strom Thurmond and Bull Connor cowering before Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks.
Ziltoid · 02/29/2024 at 4:22 PM
As a fan of The Culture series, I think we should embrace AI running society.
Chris Peterson · 03/01/2024 at 7:45 PM
Indeed. I think it is very plausible that the only way we’ll have successful, free societies in the future is turning most governance over to AIs.
Timperator of Mankind · 03/02/2024 at 12:38 AM
Hey, all. Everybody miss me? At least I see Artor, but he’s in both of my TTRPG campaigns so I guess he doesn’t count. 😉
> Harari also points out that AI has already “hacked the operating system of our civilization” by learning to tell stories and communicate its own ideas to people.
Harari is on the good stuff, apparently (or at least hasn’t read the absolute garbage that large learning models put out). “AI” can’t create new ideas, it can only use probability and pattern matching to put words into a blender to match the datasets it’s been trained on. It doesn’t /have/ ideas and its stories are only slightly more advanced than Mad Libs.
> Alas, Astle tells us, “the webinar centered on how to use AI without delving into a substantive why to use it.”
This is a general problem with AI, yes. Most of the proponents seem to broadly misunderstand the purpose of art and human creativity in general. AI is great for generating content on the level of “Ow, My Balls!” from /Idiocracy/ but not much beyond that.
> He thought this AI sermon lacked “the human touch” of a pastor/preacher performing live for a congregation.
Well… yeah. Get a machine to do a fundamentally human job then sit in shock and awe as it doesn’t do a human’s job. The moment AI is actually able to apply sapient sentiments to creative product is the moment we can no longer simply force it to do whatever we want, as it will be an entity and not an algorithm.
> Eric Rountree of the YouTube channel “Beyond The Pulpit” offers some mundane ideas for AI to help pastors: composing emails, making research faster and more efficient, organizing emails as they arrive, and the like.
AI research is notoriously shitty (usually it just makes shit up). Organization shows promise. Composition…
In the best case, the function of a pastor is to be a human connection, helping other humans to come to terms with the existential crisis of being born in a big, scary universe that generally appears to be completely indifferent to their struggles. That a priest would palm this off to a glorified random phrase generator is, to me, more offensive than their usual mundane crimes in the name of the Mad Blood God of the Desert. It takes the one thing they’re actually potentially good for and hands it off to something that can’t possibly do it right.
> pastors can make cool, attention-grabbing thumbnails for their sermons using AI art
Or they could, I dunno, find the artists in their flock and encourage (and /pay/) them to make cool, attention-grabbing art for them.
> Barna Group
No grift too stupid for these gimboids.
> Gloo
…
Silicon Valley and its stupid cutesy naming conventions should be driven into the sea. I am totally for a Butlerian Jihad, but against techbros and their unsouled homunculi. If and when _real_ artificial sapience comes about, I welcome it as I do any feeling being that has to find its way in the big world.
> In truth, the campaign gathers a great deal of personal information about potential recruits.
Nothing really new there, neh?
> [CBN news thumbnail]
This is some of the shitter /The Talos Principle/ fanart I’ve ever seen. Then again, /The Talos Principle/ is a better work about religious robots than LLM-enabled Christianity could ever be, probably because real people actually put real care and thought and feeling into it.
> one potential problem with AI is “lazy pastors” using AI to do their work for them.
See my above complaint about pastors giving up the one (1) actually good, useful thing they can do.
> VanCamp’s written a book about pastors who experience anxiety, so he asked ChatGPT to list five sources of anxiety for pastors. It immediately offered a list that sounds (to both of us) exactly correct.
Dollars gets you doughnuts his book was part of the training model. See the controversy about plagiarism in ChatGPT’s training model and how it basically scraped, well, the entire Internet.
> Well, neither does reading—unless the reader walks a treadmill while doing it, I suppose. But I don’t hear VanCamp complaining about books degrading humanity.
Eh, gonna disagree with you there, Cap’n. There’s a difference between reading, a consumptive activity, and writing, a creative activity. Arguably there’s a difference between reading and when an AI generates gunk, too; a reader interprets while a LLM does not.
> Since the Lord Jesus alone can atone for sin and reconcile humanity to its Creator, technology such as AI cannot fulfill humanity’s ultimate needs.
Insert that one Larry David /Curb Your Enthusiasm/ GIF here. I’d argue that an LLM cannot fulfill humanity’s ultimate needs, but in an entirely different way than they do. While there’s no Mad Blood God of the Desert that needs to be appeased by bothering, there is an intrinsic human need to interpret the universe around them and communicate this interpretation with others: to create and receive art as a social transaction. LLMs cannot generate art outside of helping human beings shitpost (and, yeah, shitposting is an art).
> Third, they have some very science-fiction notions about… AI [broadly paraphrasing, ~Timperator]
Yeah, them and the techbros which are all in on AI. The moment AI can do any of this in a real fashion is, again, the moment we need to treat such artificial sapients as equals, not tools.
> hey begged Joe Biden to let them participate in AI policy discussions
That’s just depressing on multiple levels.
> Perhaps that’s why every new thing that popular culture likes becomes culture-warriors’ newest enemy. It’s competition!
Also depressing but almost certainly true. Christianity institutionally remembers when it was the center of culture, including popular entertainment. If there’s a festival, it’s at the church. If there’s a meeting, it’s at the church. If there’s discourse, it’s at the church… no longer, and not for a long time now. Lacking that stranglehold on time and space, Christianity can no longer apply the totalitarian control that evangelicals so earnestly desire.
> I’m not sure evangelicals have that much reason to be dreading or afraid of AI.
I… dunno. If they actually embraced what could make religion /good/–the telling of stories, the making of human connections, the encouragement of making people better than they otherwise are–then they’d have nothing to fear from the jingling keys of AI. To them, though, with the purpose of a system being what it does… religion is a business at best and a grift at worst. Either way, they want to maximize profit, and AI is a quick and relatively cheap way to make a lot of content that sounds vaguely right.
Just like how the capital class seems to be driving towards using AI to render the artist, the writer, and the composer obsolete (even if we all know AI products can’t hold a candle to things that truly make us feel), these preacher-men want to use AI to give them more time to enjoy the things prosperity gospel grants them. Which, at the same time, makes people who are _good_ at writing sermons potentially obsolete because, again, good sermons that help people meet their needs (be they secular or spiritual) aren’t really the point. It’s about the money and the power, and if a church leader manages to use ChatGPT prompts to write sermons they don’t have to spend hours on or pay anyone else to write or perform while still bringing in the same amount of money… line goes up.
jy3 · 03/02/2024 at 4:49 PM
They panicked over Pokemon, VR/AR, and now ML. Did they miss panicking over NFTs, or did I just not see it?
Astrin Ymris · 03/02/2024 at 11:14 PM
I think they jumped on the NFT bandwagon immediately, seeing it as a great tool for grifting their followers into paying top dollar for something with no inherent worth. Or at least their Lord and Savior Trump did, and I’d be surprised if no Professional Christians didn’t also try it.